Thermo Fisher Scientific and EcoVadis

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This episode has a bit of everything: hard-won progress, honest challenges, and something of a new format.

First up, Ollie sits down with the awesome team of Kristen Chambers and Matthew Yamatin from Thermo Fisher Scientific – one of those rare companies that isn’t just talking about supply-chain emissions, but quietly getting on with the work. They unpack how Thermo Fisher has built the internal systems, data foundations and supplier relationships needed to operate at scale, including how they’ve generated 80,000 product carbon footprints in a single year, how they balance customer demands with supplier realities, and why “good products from good suppliers” has become a practical decision-making framework rather than a slogan.

Then, Tom and Dexter are joined by Pierre François Thaler, co-founder of ⁠EcoVadis⁠, for a wide-ranging conversation on how sustainability expectations are really landing in global supply chains. Pierre François reflects on building EcoVadis through financial crises, shifting regulations and rising ambition – and explains why embedding sustainability into procurement decisions is still the single biggest unlock for progress.

There's also a new Ask the Expert segment, where real, unfiltered questions from Scope 3 practitioners are put directly to Pierre-François. Topics include supplier engagement without overload, using sustainability scores in RFPs, rewarding suppliers for action (not just disclosure), and how AI is changing the way companies collect and use sustainability data.

Along the way, the team also share insights from hundreds of recent practitioner challenges, revealing what’s really keeping sustainability and procurement teams awake at night – and what’s finally starting to change.